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Post by CE Johnson on Oct 17, 2006 16:40:31 GMT -5
Because pins aren't being moved as often as some might like, I propose that keys should accompany each of the top 3-5 tags. The top 5 players know where good placements are and what a good course looks like. If this doesn't sound good, we need to redistribute keys to players that WILL move pins regularly. Pins used to be moved weekly.
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Post by dga on Nov 12, 2006 22:21:59 GMT -5
The problem with the keys going with the better tags is that the better tags may be taken to far away places. The #1 tag is out of state right now. Granted Dan O. is keeping good care of it up in Cheyenne and will always frequent Edora often but the problem still stands. I What about the key holders to be voted on by the club? I think the baskets have been moving around pretty good lately which is good not only for all of our games and for keeping Edora from being stale but it also helps for the erosion around the baskets to be minimized with consistent shuffling of baskets. Thanks to those that do move baskets
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Post by originalcracker on Nov 17, 2006 13:09:02 GMT -5
I know that Dan B. and myself are just about the only two who actually move baskets on a regular basis. I am willing to give my key up, so long as whoever gets it actually will use it. I will continue to move baskets, however with the arrival of my little one it will be few and far between. I think baskets should move more also. Maybe we could find out exactly how many keys we have and redistribute to those who want them, and will use them. There has to be at least 6-10 keys out there, and as I said I think that it's mainly been Dan B. and myself moving them. Perhaps those of you who don't move baskets at all any more could forfeit your keys to new blood. I remember when I got my key I was very enthusiastic about moving baskets, maybe it wasn't the best layout, but at least they were being moved. The problem I have with people moving baskets is that some people don't consider Rec Golfers in the set up. These people MUST be considered!!! Maybe we could come up with different layouts and schedule them to where we were changing things up bi-weekly. I agree we need to be aware of erosion it is important to keep the course in good shape. I am going to keep drilling this statement into everyone's head whether they like it or not "PUT UP OR SHUT UP!!" If you don't like something do something about it. All I had to do was ask for a key and I got one. People who say they are not included need to get themselves included by contacting the leadership, that is what they are there for. I am tired of people saying they didn't know this or that was going on! If you want to know what's going on get involved! I'm sorry if I sound like an not a very nice person, but this is getting ridiculous. We can all work together instead of just one or two people doing everything. Bryan and Jeff Martin have d**n near sold their souls to this club and personally I don't know if they have been given the credit they are due. Perhaps you don't like what they did but they are making an effort and they aren't trying to hurt the club, they're trying to help! With all this said let's get together and get nuts going, I know everyone has their opinions and they ALL should be heard. Again, I'm not trying to be an not a very nice person, I know we can all come to a common agreement.
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Post by coldwatr on Apr 2, 2007 10:32:51 GMT -5
I will commit to moving 2-3 baskets per week. and you are absolutely right jeff. you shouldn't have to apologize either. If someone doesn't like how something is going, then they should be a part of the solution.
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Post by BeTheMachine on Aug 21, 2007 1:55:06 GMT -5
does that mean I should take my "how bout them cowboys, nice game broncos" rant somewhere else, dammit, guess I'll have to start a new thread. ;D
speaking of keys, who knows why mine doesn't work for the bulletin board anymore.
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Post by CE Johnson on Aug 21, 2007 15:20:22 GMT -5
We changed the lock on you. We didn't want you putting up "go cowboys/spurs" crap or your usual smart-ass post like you do in the forum.
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Post by BeTheMachine on Aug 21, 2007 15:43:11 GMT -5
well then, I'll just keep using my master key (phillips head) and now I will put up smart-ass crap like the rule book opened up to the line of play definition high-lighted in pink just for you CJ and other smart-ass crap that I feel is relevant. wow, calling me a smart-ass, pot and kettle brother. ...and so the thread deviates... ;D
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Post by Michael-Tuohy on Sept 10, 2007 12:48:18 GMT -5
My background: I used to play a lot a dozen years ago when the real course was still at CSU. Then, right before I graduated, then took the course down and put up the joke at badlands. I stopped playing cold turkey, then moved way out of state. Now I'm back, health issues are keeping me from climbing seriously and disc golf is a great way for me to do something without hurting myself. That said, I just started playing at Edora.
First observation: The Board at Edora is kind of embarrassing. All the messages should be typed or neatly written and secured on all four corners as if they were put up by a professional organization. They should pertain to important information only, no personals, nothing vague. They should be up to date or taken down. Each note should document who put it up and their contact info. My first game, it took me a few minutes to find the first tee! And the map is good, but it's oriented opposite to the direction you're standing in.
Second observation: Wouldn't it make sense to rotate pins on a fixed schedule, posted on the board? If the placements are A-B-C-D etc, why not just have the board say "This week we're playing the A pins". If you watch the non-clubbers, there's a lot of confusion when they get to tee boxes if the pin can't be seen. "Well, I'll just throw it over there and hope I'm in a good spot."
Third observation: When the tee pads are removed, would the city object to temporarily painting a tee box on the sidewalks? This would look more consistent with the rest of the course. A note on the Board would also help newcomers with a heads up for why tee boxes are missing in some places when they make a fantastic trail map for the rest of the course.
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Post by Michael-Tuohy on Oct 2, 2007 19:08:10 GMT -5
Been a while since this thread was started..... I again re-state the confusion less frequent users find upon coming to the course. If pin placements have A-B-C-D positions as labeled on the totally informative tee posts, why not have the entire course follow that same pattern? A simple note on the board could say, "Pins are in the B placements today". Gripes abound regarding how this would be a monumental effort and may lack creativity, but it sure seems like the current system bothers everyone, even those who put in the effort. Change the pins every 4-6 weeks, the course would still be fresh through the summer, and ALL users would have an easier time of things. If people think that doesn't offer enough variety, then they can rally everyone on league night to make it happen all at once.
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Post by originalcracker on Oct 2, 2007 20:40:32 GMT -5
Wow, been a while since I've seen these threads. Ocho, were you refering to my thread as starting off good but then deviating from the initial post? To answer to my tardiness to responding, well my wife was big time preggers at that time, my bad, I had more important things going on. I really didn't take it personally when I was ranting, I was just explaining that keys were and still are very attainable(all those "I'm not trying to be a not a very nice person" bits is actually I'm not trying to be an a**h@le. It may have been a rant, but a relevant one). Again, anyone can go to someone in a leadership role and ask, it's that simple. They will say yes or no and hopefully give an explanation as to their decision. I agree that this is a place to put forth positive feedback and logical solutions, but feedback alone doesn't cut it. We need people out there and willing to do things i.e. move baskets, fix up bulletin board, and inform people as to where the pins are. I'm really impressed that almost a year later you remember that the baskets where moved the day after the start of the thread. Do you keep notes on when and where placements are(seriously, I'm not trying to be a smarta$$)?
How long have the pins been in these same placements? I intend on getting my key back from Eric D when I get back from Florida. I'm out there at least two mornings a week and will move baskets, mainly because I like the change. I gave it to ED because he thought he'd be able to move them more than myself. Then he got to going to a bunch of tourneys and has been to busy, which is a reasonable excuse. Hey Tuohy, I know what you mean about the info on pin placements and lack of other important info on the bulletin board. This should definitely be part of the next club meeting.
Hopefully I stayed on topic, if I strayed, please pardon my ranting.
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Post by storm_king on Oct 3, 2007 0:06:01 GMT -5
Speaking from limited research, here...
I'm thinking that all A placements are short, B's longer, etc., With D being the longest? This has been my assumption for years, but I could be wrong.
If this is the case, putting them all in a particular letter's spot could result in a course too short or too long for some players. Also, in theory, unless someone thought ahead when assigning letters, having all the pins in a certain setup could also result in a course too lefty or righty friendly.
Anyone who knows the method behind the madness (so to speak) of the letters, please step in with more info...
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Post by Michael-Tuohy on Oct 3, 2007 0:39:39 GMT -5
I seem to remember a recent thread out there about fixing up the tee posts..... Could be an opportunity to think about, say, four good course layouts: A-B-C-D. Re-do the post drawings, call it good. Also, having a really boring course rotation (which my idea certainly is) wouldn't preclude the course from being occasionally changed for tournaments and such. It would just add an element of consistency to everyday play.
Meanwhile, I'm not trying to force a point here at all. It just seems like a good debate that fell flat a while back and I'm trying to open it up to continuing ideas. Bring 'em on.
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