Two Meter Rule - A "given" for the club?

[storm_king]

The notorious "Two Meter Rule" was recently discarded by the PDGA as a normal rule of play, and is no longer in effect unless the tournament director announces differently, prior to the start of the tourney or round.

Here in NoCO, many... maybe even most... players still hang on to the old rule, so much that some seem to feel that it's a "given" around here.

Do you feel this should apply when playing something more than a casual round with friends (ie. league, tag match, night round, etc.) even though it conflicts with the official PDGA rules as they now stand?

(Take note: If it's league, then the TD should, of course, announce it first. This doesn't always happen, though.)

[masterblaster]

i agree most members up here take this 2 meter rule as fact not option....... its a toughy though i love the rule as it WAS.... in alot of situations not getting a penalty stoke may affect the line/shot i take on a hole.as a td there are times i have forgotten to call the 2 meter rule before we start a league round and therefore could not be played..... friggin pdga needs to grow a pair and stick to a decision if they keep doin this my ex-wife should apply for the rules department
i say we print up the next group of cards for leagues that says 2 meter rule in effect during leauge and tag matches

[r8rh8r]

No way if you are in a tree its already a penalty. The Pdga was right to put an end to the double penalty. As far as league goes Sunday rounds go by pdga rules!

[mothergoose]

I am not sure what the rule is... i've always gone by the play it were it lays rule. What is the 2 meter rule?
Also, is there a penalty for being in a tree? What are the exacts of that? As in..
If you hit a tree, thats a pen
If you are stuck in tree, thats a pen

Thanks for your help.

Mother Goose
Jonas

[originalcracker]

If you are 6 feet or more in a tree that is a stroke.

[storm_king]

Actually, this is no longer a rule.

For a long time, up until last year, if your disc was stuck in a tree above 2 meters (roughly six feet), you would use your marker "mini" disc to mark your lie on the playing surface below it. You then take your shot from behind the mini, and add a one stroke penalty to your score for being out of bounds.

The PDGA recently did away with this rule, but many people still like it and think that's the way it should be played. What it comes down to is that its up to either the person running league, the tournament director, etc. to enact this rule before a round to have it be in effect. Otherwise, you no longer are penalized for being above two meters. There is no reason to use this rule in casual play if it is new to you, but now you know what they're talking about if someone ever mentions it.

I hope we see you out at league sometime Jonas, it's always a good time!

KC

[originalcracker]

I thought we had decided that the 2 meter rule was always in effect during league play. Maybe that was just this past weekend at Gr8tful when Bill had said it was in effect all weekend. Sorry to confuse you Mothergoose, what Storm King says is actually how the rule works.

[storm_king]

Yeah, I know that's how it seemed, but I don't think there was ever a conclusive decision. I know Brandon Elder is not a fan of the 2 meter rule, and he's in charge of Sunday's.

[evanjabr]

I've played like 5 tournaments in various cities in Colorado this season and I'm pretty sure the TDs have all played the 2-Meter OB rule. The consensus (around this part of the country anyway) seems to be in favor of keeping the rule.

[BeTheMachine]

well I'm not from this part of the country.
boo creepy 2meter rule.

if you would like to discuss sometime in person why this is the worst disc golf rule next to the old mando rule (no longer in effect) I have a great argument to back up my postion.
NEVER ON SUNDAYS!!!!

[Michael-Tuohy]

I played the Estes Park course on Sunday and as far as I'm concerned there's a significant tree grabbing factor out there. I spent a good part of the day thinking about what I'd heard about the "rule". Basically, my discs proceeded to move higher and higher into successive trees. By the 16th hole, my disc was about 35 feet up. I casually told my wife, "it's OK honey, as long as I can knock it down without killing us, no penalty". Of course, with the time limit on looking for lost discs (not sure the specifics on this, but know it's out there) I could have been in a stark panic to get my disc fast. That would have changed whether I casually and safely through sticks, or sent a crazy bombardment of anything at hand. It seems absurd that you could throw haphazard into low ceiling trees and not worry about a penalty. Obviously dense bushes that would mess up your next throw are a penalty in themselves, but I can see holes where stopping in the tree above the hole and then playing from the ground below would be a benefit. You could essentially use the tree as a backstop.

Of course in ball golf, if you were to take a penalty for OB, you would get a drop. That means that you don't stand inside the bush and instead drop the ball just inside the playing area. The reason you see guys like Tiger taking the occasional crazy looking shot in the gallery is because they have a chance at avoiding the penalty. If the ball is deemed unplayable, they pick it up and take a drop plus one stroke.

Let the banter rumble.

[Michael-Tuohy]

Wow, that thread was a dud!

The other day I fished a disc out of a tree at about 30 feet. Could I have sunk a birdy from there without the penalty, as long as I stayed in the tree where I grabbed the disc?